XBOX 2 not backwards compatible + no hard drive

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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=dev&aid=3645

I can see how it would be a problem since the hardware is going to be so different, but it still sucks.  :-\

"We do expect Microsoft to launch its console first, perhaps as early as 2005," says Pachter. "Should it choose to do so without backward compatibility or significant third-party software support, we expect to see its first-mover advantage evaporate."
 
:( The hard drive was one of my favorite Xbox features, and no backwards compatability means no nostalgic Halo moments *runs away crying*
 
I was considering buying an Xbox when I moved potentially move back to Canada next year....don't know if I'm going to bother now.
 
i think it will be backwards compatible. unless they switch to cartridges or something, there is no real reason why they wouldnt
 
Full article:

No backward compatibility in Xbox 2

Rob Fahey 16:15 21/06/2004
Because two boxes under the TV are as good as one, apparently


Sources close to Microsoft's senior Xbox executives have confirmed that the company does not intend to make its next-generation console, which is set to be launched by late 2005, backwards compatible with existing Xbox software.

Speculation about the backwards compatibility functionality has been rife since it emerged that Xbox 2 - codenamed Xenon - will have radically different hardware to the original system, with a non-x86 processor, no hard drive and an ATI, rather than NVIDIA, graphics chipset, all of which would make running Xbox titles on the platform very difficult.

It was widely believed, however, that Microsoft had retained a team of hardware emulation experts to work on the problem - although concerns over the viability of such an endeavour were voiced by some experts, especially regarding the company's ability to emulate the functions of the graphics unit in the Xbox without violating NVIDIA's intellectual property rights.

GamesIndustry.biz has now learned that Microsoft does not plan to provide any backwards compatibility in the next-generation Xenon platform - and indeed, that senior executives at the company don't believe backwards compatibility to be an important feature for consoles.

According to a source close to the project, internal Microsoft figures suggest that only 10 per cent of PlayStation 2 purchasers were interested in the console's ability to play titles developed for the original PlayStation.

Although this still represents some seven million consumers on a global basis - which is around half of Microsoft's entire installed base for Xbox - the company apparently believes that allowing consumers to play existing Xbox titles on the next-generation hardware would not be a significant deciding factor for Xenon purchasers.

However, a report into the videogames industry published today by Wedbrush Morgan Securities senior vice president Michael Pachter disagrees with this conclusion - arguing that failing to provide backward compatibility could have the effect of alienating Microsoft's existing Xbox installed base.

"In the event that Xbox Next is not backward compatible, we think that the device will be very slow to grow its footprint," the report warns, while elsewhere it suggests that such a move could damage the company's long-term prospects for the console.

"We do expect Microsoft to launch its console first, perhaps as early as 2005," says Pachter. "Should it choose to do so without backward compatibility or significant third-party software support, we expect to see its first-mover advantage evaporate."
 
*comes out of corner of denial*

yeah, but, does not intend means it probablly won't

*goes back into corner of denial*
 
Wait, are you serious? Its not going to be backwards compatible?!

Thats like suicide anymore..

Nintendo BETTER BE backwards compatible. Its funny... thats partly why the GB was so successful, and Nintendo never caught on till now.

But... MS ..... Not following the backwards compatibility suit, thats going to be bad news IMO.

†B†V† :hat
 
IMO Microsoft's pretty freakin' stupid for not adding backwards compatibility and a hard disk. I mean, the hard disk was the greatest feature of the Xbox - no pain in the keister memory cards (PS2 *shudder*), ability to save music to it (less cd's to carry), etc. And backwards compatibility, while it will be a challenge cause they're morons to change the hardware that much (should've had ATI to begin with and should keep the hard disk idea), will greatly enhance the usage of the console. The only reason I can think that they're not putting that stuff in is to make it small and use a different format than DVD.
 
I like the harddrive because it gave developers a lot more room to work with. There's a reason why games like Ninja Gaiden, Full Spectrum Warrior, Chronicles of Riddick, etc. are exclusive to XBOX (and PC, in some cases). Plus, downloadable content. :)
 
Definetly.......but, im interested to see what theyll put out in place of it.......they wouldnt just give up on so much memory like that.......maybe some removable storage with tons of space or something
 
Hey! Trkorecky, stop using my avatar! Well, I guess you don't have to, but it's confusing this way.


In either case, I heard a while ago that the Xbox 2 was just gonna be a chip or something. Does anyone know how that rumor got started, and if it had any factual basis?
 
Within 6 months of its release, there will be mod chips for playing Xbox 1 games on Xbox 2 anyway.

I have to agree with BV, it's commercial suicide at this point.